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Wednesday, June 03, 2009


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John Taylor

Thanks for that George,
While it is true that the FCRA does call for creditors to contact people with fraud alerts issued prior to issuing new credit accounts, few actually do that or only run checks weekly or monthly. So, basically fraud alerts are only partially effective. I have argued this point with the companies that make a living setting fraud alerts. If you look at the recent ruling in Federal Court Experian v.Lifelock you will see that the courts agree. I can't state it enough but a real identity theft service is not one that promises to stop identity theft because it cannot be done. A good service is one that provides early warning of possible fraud, full restoration, and reprentation for victims. When a person becomes a victim they are much more likely to have repeat episodes. A good company will document the fraud and the paper trail for subsequent issues as well. A good company has a working relationship with federal, state, private database companies, and law enforcement agencies. They can effectively make ammendments, or change record entries that have been made resulting from fraud. They will provide restoration services that are performed by forensic licensed investigators who are empowered both by license and POA to act on behalf of the identity theft victim client.
We should not be so possessed by asking a service to stop identity theft and more focused on what they will do for us when we become a victim of fraud. Identity theft is no different than any crime. We cannot stop mayhem, we cannot stop robbery, we cannot stop fraud of any kind. What makes us think that we can stop identity theft? Realistically what we can do is to empower ourselves for when it happens. How much do you pay in auto insurance? Is it worth it? When you have to file a claim it is worth its weight in gold. How much is your identity worth?



Thanks for the comment. I agree with most of your comment above. My question is this: how is a consumer to tell or evaluate a "good service" that provides full restoration and representation of victims? How can a consumer tell which service has the best fraud documentation practices, and the best working relationships with government agencies, database companies, and law enforcement?

In my experience, most consumers I've talked with are still learning the basics:

a) the sensitive personal data they should protect,
b) protect their identity and home computer
c) monitor their credit reports for fraud/accuracy

That is scary enough for many consumers. Regarding restoration services, people tell me they'll deal it when and if it happens. I've been reading about ID-theft services for almost two years, and it is hard to tell which service has the "best" restoration and victim representation services. I've yet to see any statistics (e.g., resolution rates, reimbursement rates, etc.) by independent evaluations of the various restoration services to help consumers.

Maybe Consumer Reports is working on something in this area.


John Taylor

Thanks George,
The best way in my opinion is to look at who the company is. Who are the directors? Are they privacy professionals or are they marketing or software people? As you know I represent the Identity Theft Shield. The restoration and client representation is handled by Kroll Fraud Solutions. Here is a link to the relevent Kroll web page that covers the basics of the service.


The product is the only service in existence where Kroll has partnered with another company to create such a program. It was begun in 2003, long before the world recognized ID theft as a real global threat. It was designed as being future proof in that no one knows or knew at the time how identity theft would manifest itself in the future. Kroll took the position that no matter how a client finds themselves a victim, whether it is from the credit bureaus, the IRS, resulting from a false arrest, from being denied insurance due to false CLUE attachments, denied air flight due to a watchlist entry of a clients drivers license, etc. Kroll will perform the restorative services. Kroll did not take the position that they are going to stop ID theft, but instead their philosophy is to provide a good early warning system via the credit bureaus which are the most common first indication of ID theft, and to prevent the fallout from ID theft with a restoration performed by Federally LICENSED forensic investigators no matter how ID theft occurs. Is it perfect? Absolutely not. Is it the best thing going? Yes, without a doubt. Any company that engages in false hubris as to how good they are is suspect to me. Kroll is not like that. They rely on a 35 year track record of solving privacy and security issues for Sovereign governments, multi-national corporations in 26 countries throught the world, and since 2003 for individuals. They have for years worked with companies who have experienced data breaches to handle all the forensic work to unravel the crime if there aws one in the first place. When Harvard had a massive breach in 2007 Kroll was in place to solve it, notify all p[otential victims, contain the damage within 39 minutes, and protect Harvard from legal damages.
The Identity Theft Shield is only available by way of Pre-Paid Legal Services Associates. I make that and the legal service plans available to employee groups as an employee benefit. There is no software solution to identity theft. There is no legal solution to identity theft. There is no methodology that will stop it from happening any more than there is for any crime. We have to rely on two things. First, that the majority of us will do the right thing, and second that we protect ourselve from those who don't share that philosophy. Identity theft is an international crime that crosses all cultures, and legal systems. Try to wrangle that! The smart thing to do is to protect yourself as best you can.

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